Radio Broadcasts Of Lord Haw Haw
Started by KiNoRonin, 4th October 2011 05:21 in Serious Discussion

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    since most of the Great War, America was Neutral.
    You mean they were late then claimed they won it?
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    No-one said that he did, Forkers. He claimed to be British - ergo it was Britain he betrayed.
    He claimed so on two passport applications, then switched to German citizenship, but not until after the war had started. Had he gone to Germany and taken out citizenship BEFORE the UK entered the war, he would have been safe.
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    Nice Fred
    He claimed so on two passport applications, then switched to German citizenship, but not until after the war had started. Had he gone to Germany and taken out citizenship BEFORE the UK entered the war, he would have been safe.
    Hey! That's Right. Then he might have gotten about 10 Years in Prison and then gotten out.

    If that had of happened, he would have been able to get back on the Radio in Ireland somewhere.

    But he also Enlisted in the UK Officers Training School and in order to Enlist in that School, you have Swear Allegiance to the Crown of England. So when he made that Enlistment, he again Hanged Himself.


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    Nice Fred
    You mean they were late then claimed they won it?
    They have made such Claims before.

    They came in just in time to stop the German 1918 Offensive so that is why they make such Claims.


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    Did a Findagrave Search for England only since I realized that unless you Change Countries, Findagrave will only give results in the USA.

    Found a Francis Albert Joyce but not Michael Francis. There were several listings for Airmen named Joyce who were Pilots in the RAF.

    Maybe they arranged for Michael Francis to be Buried in Secret so that his Grave does not get Violated.


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    Here is a Sgt who was KIA:

    https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...campbell-joyce


    Probably a Bomber Crewman.


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    Here is William Joyce Findagrave Listing:

    https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/.../william-joyce

    No Information on this Listing about Parentage.


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    Kino - does anyone really care about such a traitorous nonentity?
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    I guess not.

    But I found a reference to Michael Francis being Killed in 1941 under some sort of Tragic Circumstance and I became fascinated in finding more about him and about how he was Killed.

    Actually, after what I have read about William and his lack of Remorse for his Crimes, I may be giving more of a Rats Ass about what happened to Michael Francis that his own Son did.


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    Guess what I just found!:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Haw-Haw

    Seems there were several other Pro Nazi Announcers that Broadcast Lord Haw-Haw Programs during the War:

    Announcers associated with the nickname
    A number of announcers could have been Lord Haw-Haw:

    Wolf Mittler was a German journalist. Mittler spoke near-flawless English, which he had learned from his mother, who had been born of German parents in Ireland. His persona was described by some listeners as similar to the fictional aristocrat Bertie Wooster.[11] Reportedly finding political matters distasteful, he was relieved to be replaced by Norman Baillie-Stewart, who stated that Mittler "sounded almost like a caricature of an Englishman".[12] It has been speculated that it was Mittler's voice which Barrington described; if so it would make him the original Lord Haw-Haw.[7] In 1943, Mittler was deemed suspect and arrested by the Gestapo, but he managed to escape to Switzerland.[13] After the war, he worked extensively for German radio and television.[14]
    Norman Baillie-Stewart was a former officer of the Seaforth Highlanders who was cashiered for selling secrets to Nazi Germany. He worked as a broadcaster in Germany for a short time in 1939. He was jailed for five years by the British after the war. For a time he claimed that he was the original Lord Haw-Haw. He did have an upper-class accent, but he later decided that it was probably Mittler whose voice Barrington had heard. He may have been the broadcaster the BBC referred to as "Sinister Sam".[7]
    Eduard Dietze, a Glasgow-born broadcaster of a mixed German-British-Hungarian family background,[15] is another possible, but less likely, candidate for the original Lord Haw-Haw.[8] He was one of the English-speaking announcers with an "upper-crust accent" who were heard on German radio in the early days of the war.[16]
    James R. Clark was a young English broadcaster and a friend of William Joyce.[8] Clark and his pro-Nazi mother, Mrs. Dorothy Eckersley, were both tried for treason after the war.[17] Dorothy Eckersley was born Dorothy Stephen in 1893. She later married Edward Clark, a musician, and had a son, James Clark, who was born in 1923. She divorced her first husband and was married to Peter Eckersley, a senior figure working in the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC). After ten years of marriage to Peter Eckersley, Dorothy's increasing interest in German National Socialism and fascism led her to move to Germany with her son, enrolling him (by then aged 17 years) in a German school. Following this move, "...Dorothy Eckersley came to play a key role in William Joyce's fate in Berlin..."[18]
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    I am Amazed that none of the above also did not get Hanged. Especially that Scottish Seaforth Highlander who actually Sold Secrets to the Nazis.


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