This isn't a loss for Corbyn
Started by Nice Fred, 13th December 2019 08:31 in General Election 2019

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    BobBobson
    Superior campaigning?
    Yeah, Boris promised free internet in a brilliantly crude appeal to the base instincts of the naturally entitled. Masterstroke or what?

    Oh, hang on...
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    Reg Perrin
    The left lost because of Corbyn, Brexit and superior campaigning by the Tories. By superior I mean they didn't rely on rational debate but did rely on unsophisticated appeals to base human nature. The lesson to be learned is to play the same way.
    The left lost because they weren't the least worst option, unlike the Tories.

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    BoJo refusing to even turn up to many leaders debates and simply reciting his tagline of "Let's get Brexit Done' whenever he was hit with an awkward question.
    Well it certainly worked!

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    If I were a Labour man I might regard the result as a blessing in disguise.
    Reminds me of when somebody suggested to Winston Churchill that the Conservatives' 1945 election defeat was a "blessing in disguise", he replied that "it's very heavily disguised".
    Don't blame me, I voted Labour!

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    It was shit or bust. That's all there is to it. The Party Conference, not Corbyn, decided the policy. That is largely irrelevant now. Corbyn's had his shot and it failed. Newcastle MP's won because they slightly removed themselves from the Corbyn mainstream. There was a Momentum inspired attempt to deselect Catherine McKinnell, the grass roots Newcastle members rejected that and she won. Laura Pidcock identified too closely with Corbyn and lost in probably what should have been the safest labour seat in the world.

    That's done now. We regroup and start again. The country has made its bed, we now have to lie in it.
    Now that Corbyn is a busted flush, I am considering rejoining Labour in 2020. A lot depends on who they select as his successor.
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    Really?

    BoJo refusing to even turn up to many leaders debates and simply reciting his tagline of "Let's get Brexit Done' whenever he was hit with an awkward question.
    It was superior in that the strategy of avoidance caused no damage and the projection of a well meaning bumbling fool, up against nasty interviewers, only served to endear Johnson to the idiots that voted en masse for him. It was "superior" because it worked.

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    Now that Corbyn is a busted flush, I am considering rejoining Labour in 2020. A lot depends on who they select as his successor.
    No thanks.

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    the idiots that voted en masse for him
    Still...not getting it....

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    I wasn't making you an offer.
    Don't blame me, I voted Labour!

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    Scrotnig
    Still...not getting it....
    No. What you're not getting is what's going to happen. If you want to act all semantic and philosophical, feel free. Labour has cocked up in not defeating the Conservatives at this election, but the truth remains the truth. You can fuck about with linguistic and semantic arguments, you can hide behind "clique" innuendoes of concealed knowledge, you can hide behind projected fantasies of wealth, success and happiness, you can "project" superiority by discussing exclusive subjects in philosophy, religion, electronics, biology or engineering, you can even claim to have the biggest cock and best sex life in the world. Fact is, you're, for the most part, all here, and we're all pretty ordinary....and for the most part, we're all going to suffer to one degree or another...and if not us, our children and grandchildren.

 


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