Things we'll have to do after Brexit, No. 463
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    If you're working twelve hour shifts in a care home on minimum wage, you probably can't afford to buy a decent local chicken from a farm or local sausages, and you probably don't have time between juggling your shifts and part-time jobs to cook a meal from scratch, either.
    Better still go veggie. Several of my grandchildren are vegans, and a couple are bringing their children up as partly veggie. They are all very healthy. My own children rarely eat meat, but do eat fish a few times a week.
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    Chlorination chicken sounds quite nice.
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    Chlorination chicken sounds quite nice.
    Is it any worse than the flouride and stuff that is added to our 'drinking' water?
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    Is it any worse than the flouride and stuff that is added to our 'drinking' water?
    It is quite harmless. Chris is just being a drama queen as usual.
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    I have no problem adhering to EU standards, indeed I think it’s a good idea.

    I voted leave to prevent this country being ruled by unelected foreigners.

    We could remain in the single market and customs union, thus retaining the trading agreements and standards, while not being ruled by an EU federal state. I accept we also lose influence on those rules, but actually a lot of them were driven by us in the first place, especially on food standards where we once led the world.
    Very fair points, but I think you're in a minority of Brexiteers on BC, most of whom DON'T want us to stay in the single market and customs union. May's deal would, of course, achieve that - albeit the "backstop" would have to be permanent, because as soon as that's removed we're back to the same problem of how to have an open border with different regulatory regimes.

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    Is it any worse than the flouride and stuff that is added to our 'drinking' water?
    No, and the chlorine itself wouldn't present a health risk - by the time it's on supermarket shelves, the chlorine would be sufficiently diluted as to be harmless. Vegetables are already washed in chlorine.

    The problem isn't the chlorine itself, it's the fact that the chlorine is used to disinfect meat that shouldn't be infected in the first place, and that chlorination doesn't actually always get rid of the infection, and sometimes masks it. Chlorination makes it easier for big food producers to keep chickens in unhygienic conditions, and wash away the evidence later - that's why it's banned here. As for whether this is overkill or not - look at the US. Rates of salmonella poisoning in the US are over 10 times higher than here (0.2% of the population as opposed to 0.02% here); worse, it's not just the percentage of cases, but the severity of them. Deaths from salmonella in the UK are extremely rare - there were none between 2005 and 2015, for instance. By contrast, the US has about 500 deaths a year.

    You probably remember the "Egg-wina" Currie scandal when the government advised everyone not to eat soft-boiled eggs, and Edwina Currie had the gall to say that that was not really an appropriate response, and that we should be addressing the issue itself. Well, we did - in fact, that's part of the reason EU standards are now so high. In the US, the official advice is STILL not to eat soft-boiled eggs - and there are 30 deaths each year from salmonella-infected eggs in the US.

    That's why dropping our standards is a bad idea.
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    Homosexuals should be routinely sprayed with chlorine.

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    Homosexuals should be routinely sprayed with chlorine.
    Oh? Is that so you can stuff them in your mouth without getting salmonella?

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    Seventeen of my children are vegans,
    Really?
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    LOL

    Should have gone to Specsavers.
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