Wouldn't it have been better
Started by Reg Perrin, 11th April 2019 08:28 in Brexit Forum

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    If there'd actually been a bit of planning before leaving? I mean, if all the pro's and con's had been properly investigated, in an objective and critical way. If there'd been some kind of public inquiry, conducted independently, and ultimately laying down all the alternatives so people could have made an informed decision. "A" means this. "B" means this. "C" could mean this but it's a bit of a guess. Etc Etc. And then have a proper referendum in which, if no significant majority is gained, the status quo remains. Of course there'd be noisy minorities on both sides of the coin, but ultimately the vast middle, that has effectively been marginalised by a few vested interests could make a decision that many may not like, but would be more prepared to accept. Cameron and the Tory party have been recklessly irresponsible in doing things the way they've done it. That's what is most prominent in my mind when judging this whole debacle, whatever the eventual outcome.

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    I find I am unable to disagree with most of the above.

    I still want to leave though.
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    No. We voted to leave. There's nothing complicated about it.
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    No. We voted to leave. There's nothing complicated about it.
    Unfortunately that's not been borne out by events, has it.

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    Unfortunately that's not been borne out by events, has it.
    We haven't left, no. There will be trouble ahead.

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    We haven't left, no. There will be trouble ahead.
    Is that because there are more potentially aggressive, violent, intolerant and uncompromising people on the "Leave" side of the equation?

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    Is that because there are more potentially aggressive, violent, intolerant and uncompromising people on the "Leave" side of the equation?
    No, that is generally the tactics of the left, remember the poll tax riots?
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    If there'd actually been a bit of planning before leaving? I mean, if all the pro's and con's had been properly investigated, in an objective and critical way. If there'd been some kind of public inquiry, conducted independently, and ultimately laying down all the alternatives so people could have made an informed decision. "A" means this. "B" means this. "C" could mean this but it's a bit of a guess. Etc Etc. And then have a proper referendum in which, if no significant majority is gained, the status quo remains. Of course there'd be noisy minorities on both sides of the coin, but ultimately the vast middle, that has effectively been marginalised by a few vested interests could make a decision that many may not like, but would be more prepared to accept. Cameron and the Tory party have been recklessly irresponsible in doing things the way they've done it. That's what is most prominent in my mind when judging this whole debacle, whatever the eventual outcome.
    I said at the time that the referendum should never have happened in the way it did. It wasn't an exercise in democracy and anyone that says it is is deluding themselves.
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    I said at the time that the referendum should never have happened in the way it did. It wasn't an exercise in democracy and anyone that says it is is deluding themselves.
    If you'd have won, it would have been the most democratic process known to man. But you didn't.

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    If you'd have won, it would have been the most democratic process known to man. But you didn't.
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