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    Can you have time without matter and motion?

    Can you describe time without matter and motion?
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    Can you have time without matter and motion?
    Does it matter?
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    Can you have time without matter and motion?

    Can you describe time without matter and motion?
    You can get time for arson.

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    Can you have time without matter and motion?

    Can you describe time without matter and motion?
    Did you listen to the Radio programme on animals perception of time? The answer in that programme might be no. Our human time is simply a measure of those things. As flies (for instance) process many more things in one second (one of our seconds) their time is slower. That's why they can dodge getting squatted, the piece of newspaper is travelling slower to them than it is to us. I hope this helps your attempt at appearing philosophical over a subject you just heard simply explained.

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    You can get time for arson.

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    Time seems necessary for matter and motion to exist in some kind of interdependence.
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    Can you have time without matter and motion?
    You have become interesting in my absence. Good question.

    Can you describe time without matter and motion?
    No I can't, but that's not conclusive.

    Time without Motion: If things didn't move nothing would change and if nothing changed, time would seem to be a meaningless concept. If you had two identical snapshots of the Universe, there'd be no way to tell if a second or a century had passed between the first and the second.

    Time without matter: If we are defining "matter" as that which has mass, then according to Einstein all matter experiences the passage of time whereas massless objects don't. Relativity says that everything moves through 4D spacetime at the same speed but when modelled 2Dimensionally, some of that motion is on the space axis and some on the time axis. For an object at velocity=c all of the motion is on the space axis, i.e. no time passes. For an object with non-zero mass, velocity=c is impossible, so some of its spacetime motion must be on the time axis. Thus, matter without time cannot be, but does that mean also that time without matter can't happen either?

    My conclusion: Without motion and matter, there would be no way to measure time or to experience time so to all practical intents it wouldn't exist.
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    Dole scroungers have loads of time, but the only motion you see from them is going to sign on.
    That's a matter of fact.
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    You have become interesting in my absence. Good question.

    No I can't, but that's not conclusive.

    Time without Motion: If things didn't move nothing would change and if nothing changed, time would seem to be a meaningless concept. If you had two identical snapshots of the Universe, there'd be no way to tell if a second or a century had passed between the first and the second.

    Time without matter: If we are defining "matter" as that which has mass, then according to Einstein all matter experiences the passage of time whereas massless objects don't. Relativity says that everything moves through 4D spacetime at the same speed but when modelled 2Dimensionally, some of that motion is on the space axis and some on the time axis. For an object at velocity=c all of the motion is on the space axis, i.e. no time passes. For an object with non-zero mass, velocity=c is impossible, so some of its spacetime motion must be on the time axis. Thus, matter without time cannot be, but does that mean also that time without matter can't happen either?

    My conclusion: Without motion and matter, there would be no way to measure time or to experience time so to all practical intents it wouldn't exist.
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    Nice Fred
    but the only motion you see from them is going to sign on.
    Surely they can do that 'on line' nowadays? Or at least by post.

 


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