BC's guide to What Happens at a Referendum
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    A referendum (plural: referendums or less commonly referenda) is a direct vote in which an entire electorate is invited to vote on a particular proposal. This may result in the adoption of a new law.

    From a political-philosophical perspective, referendums are an expression of direct democracy. However, in the modern world, most referendums need to be understood within the context of representative democracy. Therefore, they tend to be used quite selectively, covering issues such as changes in voting systems, where currently elected officials may not have the legitimacy or inclination to implement such changes.

    The term referendum covers a variety of different meanings. A referendum can be binding or advisory. In some countries, different names are used for these two types of referendum.

    Once a referendum has been completed, the losing side spends the next two years attempting to overturn the democratic result of the referendum, due to being completely unable to accept that they lost and the public didn't vote the way they were told.
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    The term referendum covers a variety of different meanings. A referendum can be binding or advisory.
    Correct, the the Brexit one was ADVISORY, meaning it is the duty of the government not to go through with it should that advice turn out to be extremely bad, for example, if no decent deal could be reached that wouldn;t make the country extremely worse off.

    ...amd before you bang on about just "leaving with no deal", that was NOT an option in the referendum and if such drastic measures are on the table it should be put to another referendum.
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    Correct, the the Brexit one was ADVISORY, meaning it is the duty of the government not to go through with it should that advice turn out to be extremely bad, for example, if no decent deal could be reached that wouldn;t make the country extremely worse off.

    ...amd before you bang on about just "leaving with no deal", that was NOT an option in the referendum and if such drastic measures are on the table it should be put to another referendum.
    There were two options on the voting slip:

    Remain in the European Union
    Leave the European Union

    More people voted to leave than to remain, therefore we are leaving.
    Deals or otherwise were not part of the process. The EU could very easily have refused to negotiate at all. No deal was always a possibility, and it won't harm us one little bit.
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    There were two options on the voting slip:

    Remain in the European Union
    Leave the European Union
    Yes, and none about what form that leaving might take, so people were voting blind, and as already stated, it was ADVISORY.

    Once we know what form it is there should be another referendum on whether people still want it. That referendum could even be binding, which this one wasn't.

    It was clearly stated that it wasn't and people voted KNOWING it wasn't, therefore, the argument that if we don't leave it is undemocratic is complete and utter nonsense.
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    It was just pretend. Lol
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    Once we know what form it is there should be another referendum on whether people still want it.
    That wasn't part of the deal, if it was felt that ought to have been the way to structure it, it should have been made clear at the outset.

    You can't change the rules after the fact just because you lost.
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    Yes, and none about what form that leaving might take, so people were voting blind, and as already stated, it was ADVISORY.

    Once we know what form it is there should be another referendum on whether people still want it. That referendum could even be binding, which this one wasn't.

    It was clearly stated that it wasn't and people voted KNOWING it wasn't, therefore, the argument that if we don't leave it is undemocratic is complete and utter nonsense.
    Stop being such a bawbag. Us British voted to get out from this EU shite and the last thing we want is commie arse-wipes such as you lecturing and patronising us on why we should have voted to remain. Now f'uck off and stop bulling us.

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    The UK did not join a political Union, It joined a Common Market......So how did it change?
    The European Union is Nazism under a new banner.
    Perrin is right about Cameron, on everything else he is wrong.
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    That wasn't part of the deal, if it was felt that ought to have been the way to structure it, it should have been made clear at the outset.

    You can't change the rules after the fact just because you lost.
    The other big result of a referendum is the losers scream, shout, moan, bitch, and generally think of reasons why the majority were wrong.
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    Fork me stands a good chance of being booted out of Cyprus.
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