"Legal highs"
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    Oh dear, more deaths due to so called "legal highs"...Isn't it about time to sort the wheat from the chaff?

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    As you know, I'm a vaper. I also make my own e-liquid and I have to be extremely precise with my use of nicotine. It's a little-known fact that high doses of nicotine can create a sort-of high and too much can kill you. I know of many instances of DIY juice makers hospitalizing themselves. Even some professionally manufactured and legally-for-sale liquids are dangerous IMO.

    Recent legislation has limited the concentration of nicotine bearing liquid that can be sold over the counter, but I still have plenty of PG/Nicotine base in the freezer that I bought before the TPD became law which is four times the legal strength. If I were to vape it undiluted, I would probably die.
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    As you know, I'm a vaper. I also make my own e-liquid and I have to be extremely precise with my use of nicotine. It's a little-known fact that high doses of nicotine can create a sort-of high and too much can kill you. I know of many instances of DIY juice makers hospitalizing themselves. Even some professionally manufactured and legally-for-sale liquids are dangerous IMO.

    Recent legislation has limited the concentration of nicotine bearing liquid that can be sold over the counter, but I still have plenty in the freezer that I bought before the TPD became law which is four times the legally strength. If I were to vape it undiluted, I would probably die.
    I vape as well, I also smoke still this article is about "highs" that kill.
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    I vape as well, I also smoke still this article is about "highs" that kill.
    The nicotine high is partly due to the way the oxygen concentration in the blood is altered and partly due to the effect nicotine has on the size of blood vessels. There's a definite head rush if the dose is high, and if it lasts longer than a few seconds you're probably in trouble.
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    I vape as well, I also smoke still this article is about "highs" that kill.
    So is Memnoch's post.
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    Oh dear, more deaths due to so called "legal highs"...Isn't it about time to sort the wheat from the chaff?
    I don't know why you used the words "so called", legal highs are exactly what they say.

    The problem is that a lot of legal highs are new drugs that have just been developed and are not illegal yet. Something has to be known about by the authorities before it can be made illegal and I'm not sure what the solution to that is.
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    Is alcohol considered to be a 'legal high'?

    If not, then why not?

    I bet more people die from ingesting alcohol than from other legal obnoxious stuff.
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    Is alcohol considered to be a 'legal high'?

    If not, then why not?

    I bet more people die from ingesting alcohol than from other legal obnoxious stuff.
    I don't know if there's an actual definition. It seems to be a term for recreational drugs which are disapproved of but not illegal. Disapproval is of course subjective: If the government makes money on it, it's fine and therefore not included.

    You can get high on alcohol and it's legal so if we take it literally then yes, obviously, but I rather suspect those who coined the term are drinkers who meant it to be derogatory and applied only to people they regard as improper.

    (Not to be construed as a blanket approval on my part... I'm biased in favour of my own vices, but probably not Cali's)
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    I can't really recommend any kind of intoxicant chronic long term, but there is nothing wrong with dabbling.
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    I have a great legal high - It's called "being happy", requires no dealers, no chemical messing around, no lung cancer and nothing else past being nice to people.
    Going at stupid speeds on large motorbikes and parachuting is a bonus, but you can also get a opiate rush from full contact martial arts and very spicy curries.
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